Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 06, 2004, 01:11:24 am When Mage of Blackest Night mentioned us working on one project, an idea poped into my head. I don't know if anyone here is into writing, but I am. I figured we could put together a story somehow related to SF, sort of like our 'One word story thread', only with sentences. A fanfic if you will. If this is a good idea, vote it. After we see who agrees and who doesn't, we'll either start with those who want to do this, or just drop this topic.
Also, don't vote no just because you hate me. :lol: :D Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 06, 2004, 03:26:44 am I was going to vote no, and then I saw the last part of your post :)
It sounds like a good idea and I will happily be a writer in this orgy of fan-fictioning forum style. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Newts on May 06, 2004, 08:55:19 am Well the idea itself isn't so bad, but I think you'd really need to write more than a sentence at a time, for continuity's sake. Maybe you could write a paragraph/page/chapter each, and then send it to the next person in line rather than posting it up on the forum, for fear of two people posting to the same extract. In principle it could work, it just needs a bit more tweaking. Good luck :)
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Devlyn on May 06, 2004, 09:25:03 am Why not just start a message board RP right away then? :)
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 06, 2004, 05:06:24 pm Yes, I agree with Newts ( :shock: ) we should first make a list of people in order, and then they will write in that order. A paragraph will probably do fine, but I will tend to go longer, page, w/e, but I don't know about writing a whole chapter, because that will destroy the concept of a "group writing project", the story will become the person's who writes a whole chapter.
So, I would say, a para. or a page. And we will need to know all who voted yes so we can put htem in a list. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 06, 2004, 06:35:36 pm Thanks for that Newts, its a great idea. I'll put everyone in order of their votes and posts, 1 page each (try not to go overboard), and each chapter composed of 5-10 pages. So far:
Page 1: Me :D Page 2: Satan Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Newts on May 06, 2004, 08:04:10 pm Quote from: "Satan" Yes, I agree with Newts ( :shock: ) Don't look so shocked, it's a way of life for millions :P Also, it might not be a bad idea to at least have a rough agreement on the story's basics - characters, when it's set , what's going to happen etc. - before starting. There's nothing worse than writing a fabulous piece of prose, only to read "AND THEN FROM OUT OF NOWHERE PENN APPEARED AND ATTACKED MAX WHO WAS ATTACKING BOWIE AS WELL AND THEN MITULA APPEARED AND LAUGHED HAHAHA". You get the point :P Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 06, 2004, 08:13:42 pm Once again, Newts comes up with a great idea. We will need more participation before we get a little too detailed with this whole process.
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Sir Phill on May 06, 2004, 09:09:01 pm a Ye olde RPG would kick being we never got that d&d campaign going. Im a writer myself and it SOUNDS like a good idea, but, i agree with newts lets actually write somthing worth reading instead of somthing completely stupid
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: alberto on May 06, 2004, 09:59:23 pm Quote from: "Newts" Quote from: "Satan" Yes, I agree with Newts ( :shock: ) it might not be a bad idea to at least have a rough agreement on the story's basics - characters, when it's set , what's going to happen etc. - before starting. There's nothing worse than writing a fabulous piece of prose, only to read "AND THEN FROM OUT OF NOWHERE PENN APPEARED AND ATTACKED MAX WHO WAS ATTACKING BOWIE AS WELL AND THEN MITULA APPEARED AND LAUGHED HAHAHA". You get the point :P i did something like this befor and that happen, after that i dident try again...but im always bored so sure im in Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 07, 2004, 12:11:52 am Okay, so I'll make an introduction, instead of the first page. This way, we have something to build off of without having something stupid. Lets agree on some character first. Just so you know, heres the way it's set up when we're ready to start:
Intro: Me Page 1, Ch.1: Satan Page 2, Ch.1: Sir Phill Page 3, CH.1: Alberto 2 or 3 more volenteers and we should be good to start actually writing. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 07, 2004, 03:15:01 am It's about time we got some people to find their creative side...(Yes = 4, No = 2) I hope two more people come in so we can get this thing going. BTW, if people who just talk about their own games would expand their conversations into General Blah, we could easily have something going here.
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Newts on May 07, 2004, 09:01:57 am Well, not everybody has the time [or inclination] to come into General Blah - lest we forget, this place was set up to allow people to discuss the projects, so it's actually a good thing if people talk about their games.
If you're really desperate to stick someone down for the writing, put my name on there, but I'm not sure my dedication will last :P Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 07, 2004, 08:08:47 pm Well, I'll put you down. If you change your mind, I'll take you off.
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Newts on May 08, 2004, 06:32:40 pm Sounds like a fair deal to me :)
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Sir Phill on May 09, 2004, 05:40:13 am So when are we going to start writing it? We should set up some sort of plat here and some main characters and where it takes place is it scifi or a fantasy or what?
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 10, 2004, 04:13:53 am Good questions...the only thing I want to know is if we will be writing about Shining Force or are we just going to go crazy and write about anything. That's what I want to know, that's it.
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 10, 2004, 05:56:32 pm We're writing about SHF, but we still have to come up with our plot, chars, est..
I think the story should be somehow connected to SHF1 or 2. I dont want to make it too complicated, like they did with SHF 1's connection to SHF 2. In other words, our characters should have come in contact with the characters from either of the 2 games. I haven't really played any games besides 1 and 2, so I'm not really filled in on the storyline and character connections of the games. I think the story should be set before SHF2, but after SHF1. My ideas for a plot: 1.) During a war, a team assembles to deliver a message to a kingdom ally, when they become caught up in the fighting. They discover the plans of the enemy leader, and find that he is really a devil with the power to possess humans. 2.) A nomadic warrior meets a man during his travels, and they become good friends. The traveler then learns his friend is not what he seems, and must try and stop him from unleashing a hellish devil. 3.) Before Volcanon and Mitula build the holy cities of Bedoe and Tristran, the world is put in danger. After they try to combine they're powers to destroy the evil that looms of Parmecia, they are weakened, and must summon a group of warriors to finish the job. These are just a few ideas, if you don't like any, I have LOADS more. Trust me. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 10, 2004, 08:02:08 pm I say 3 right now, but I think you should put more because I don't have a very STRONG liking to this plot, but it is the best of the three.
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Sir Phill on May 10, 2004, 08:40:52 pm Two sounds quitw good to me.
However with multiple authors theres somthing i must state that i see far too often. There cant be 5 characters that are the same. You know the tough silent guy that every amature author puts in. One of this type of guy is plenty not one for each writer. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 10, 2004, 09:31:03 pm I'm not the kind to make characters strong and silent. Actually, the fic I did make, my main character is more quick than strong, and he voices his opinion. He sometimes comes short of "having all the answers" just like the average person.
Anyway, I'm still trying to think of more ideas y'all can agree on. EDIT - Ok, heres some more ideas. 1.) A huge army of strange men arrive outside of a large city, and set up camp. When the king sends someone to confront the army, he is killed, and this sets the kingdom and the stange army against each other. As the battle rages, several families manage to flee the kingdom as it burns to the ground. A boy vows to return for revenge against the army that destroyed his home and killed his family, but finds returning to the kingdom will be harder than imagined... 2.) A girl returns home after going off to the city market, and finds her mother and father are missing. When she realizes they've been kidnapped, and finds strange prints around her home, she tries to piece together the mystery of her missing family. When she gets to close to the right answers, she finds that devils are watching her closely. 3.) When word hits Ribble that the newly built Granseal, on Grans Island, has been annihlated, a native a Grans hears about the event, and decides to investigate the destruction of his hometown. But when he shows up at the rubble that was once Granseal, he finds a most unholy creature... 4.) Peace has protected Pacalon for hundreds of years after the water was restored by the Shining Force. When the sudden lack of rain returns, the villagers become nervous, and the king sends a group of soldiers to visit Mitula's shrine in Tristan. When the soldiers do not return, the king requests help from the king of the neaby kingdom. He is sent a small band of youths who are ready to follow any order. Not as good as the first 3, i think, but we can edit them if nessasary. Also, don't be afraid to express your ideas ppl. We need all the help we can get. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 11, 2004, 02:07:26 am I say number 1 of the second batch of plots is the best of all 7 I think there was? I believe I will be able to write most creatively on that topic.
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Sir Phill on May 11, 2004, 04:47:01 am Some ideas from me
1)Someone broke the seal and released Zeon. Zeon seeing the error of his ways after being defeated by Bowie revives dark dragon and forges an alliance. This is probibly 100 years after the events of SF2 or so. 2) Mass revolution has broken out and the rebels find themselves hard pushed and decimated. In a last ditch effort the revive Zeon to try and save themselves 3)to get offa the subject of Zeons rise Wierd happenings have been happening all around. Nothing major but monsters have been striking out against trading caravans and travalers have been dissapearnig. Though maybe ditch the zeon ideas and swap them with another great demon of some sort so it dosent end up being a fanfic Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: bEn on May 11, 2004, 08:00:49 am My advise would be not to be too close to the original games meaning not to use Zeon.
Due to several reasons - it would sound like a bad sequel and would remind me of the typical fanfic - ya know this "Mulder meets scully tells her that he loves her and then they have great sex" .... Would be different if you find a real reason why Zeon should return. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Zylokh on May 11, 2004, 11:49:46 am because he forgot his subway pass?
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 11, 2004, 06:47:38 pm Nice ideas Phill, but like bEn said, I'm trying to stray slightly from the Shining Force storylines. I just want a basic "relationship" with the setting to the Shining Force I/II setting to be generally close. Here are a few more:
1.) After Zeon is resealed, the gods of the planet try to destroy the two jewels in oder to keep Zeon dorment. When destroying them fails, Volcanon keeps the both jewels locked tightly within the soil under his shrine. But when Polca and Bedoem are ruthlessly attacked by powerful devils, the volcano erupts out of Volcanon's anger, and the jewels are swept away by the flowing magma. The man that finds them is not exactly virtuous. 2.) After Max escapes the sinking castle, he is washed up on the shores of a nearby city with Adam. They live in the city until Max's death, with no memory of what happened in the battle against Dark Dragon. Year's after his death, Adam's rusted and broken body is found by a boy, who decides to restore him. Adam's memories are jolted during revival, and he tells the boy of what happened long ago. But more happens to Adam then expected... More to come. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 11, 2004, 08:21:35 pm I still believe that the plot about teh army outside of the town is still the best. We should decide on one of the current plots instead of coming up with more...it will go on forever -_-
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 12, 2004, 02:32:39 am OK, now that we have a bunch of plots, I think it is time to vote on which plot we should use. Here are all of the plots that have been thought of:
1.) A huge army of strange men arrives outside of a large city, and set up camp. When the king sends someone to confront the army, he is killed, and this sets the kingdom and the strange army against each other. As the battle rages, several families manage to flee the kingdom as it burns to the ground. A boy vows to return for revenge against the army that destroyed his home and killed his family, but finds returning to the kingdom will be harder than imagined... 2.) A girl returns home after going off to the city market, and finds her mother and father are missing. When she realizes they've been kidnapped, and finds strange prints around her home, she tries to piece together the mystery of her missing family. When she gets to close to the right answers, she finds that devils are watching her closely. 3.) When word hits Ribble that the newly built Granseal, on Grans Island, has been annihilated, a native a Grans hears about the event, and decides to investigate the destruction of his hometown. But when he shows up at the rubble that was once Granseal, he finds a most unholy creature... 4.) Peace has protected Pacalon for hundreds of years after the water was restored by the Shining Force. When the sudden lack of rain returns, the villagers become nervous, and the king sends a group of soldiers to visit Mitula's shrine in Tristan. When the soldiers do not return, the king requests help from the king of the nearby kingdom. He is sent a small band of youths who are ready to follow any order. 5.) During a war, a team assembles to deliver a message to a kingdom ally, when they become caught up in the fighting. They discover the plans of the enemy leader, and find that he is really a devil with the power to possess humans. 6.) A nomadic warrior meets a man during his travels, and they become good friends. The traveler then learns his friend is not what he seems, and must try and stop him from unleashing a hellish devil. 7.) Before Volcanon and Mitula build the holy cities of Bedoe and Tristran, the world is put in danger. After they try to combine they're powers to destroy the evil that looms of Parmecia, they are weakened, and must summon a group of warriors to finish the job. 8.) Someone broke the seal and released Zeon. Zeon seeing the error of his ways after being defeated by Bowie revives dark dragon and forges an alliance. This is probably 100 years after the events of SF2 or so. 9.) Mass revolution has broken out and the rebels find themselves hard pushed and decimated. In a last ditch effort the revive Zeon to try and save themselves. 10.) To get off the subject of Zeon rise Weird happenings have been happening all around. Nothing major but monsters have been striking out against trading caravans and travelers have been disappearing. 11.) After Zeon is resealed, the gods of the planet try to destroy the two jewels in oder to keep Zeon dorment. When destroying them fails, Volcanon keeps the both jewels locked tightly within the soil under his shrine. But when Polca and Bedoem are ruthlessly attacked by powerful devils, the volcano erupts out of Volcanon's anger, and the jewels are swept away by the flowing magma. The man that finds them is not exactly virtuous. 12.) After Max escapes the sinking castle, he is washed up on the shores of a nearby city with Adam. They live in the city until Max's death, with no memory of what happened in the battle against Dark Dragon. Year's after his death, Adam's rusted and broken body is found by a boy, who decides to restore him. Adam's memories are jolted during revival, and he tells the boy of what happened long ago. But more happens to Adam then expected... These are all of the plots. I want to start a voting now, just write the number of the plot you think is best, and the votes will be tallied. I hope you all know how the rest of this is going to go down with the voting and such. After a plot is chosen, we shall start. The poll will last for 4 days OR until all people that are participating in this have voted. Whichever comes first...I guess I will start us off with number 1. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 12, 2004, 06:08:11 pm I agree. Number 1 is #1!
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 14, 2004, 05:57:40 pm Remember, voting ends tomorrow, so whoever wants to partake in this (4 people according to the poll), should hurry the hell up, make their choice so we could get started.
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 14, 2004, 10:14:37 pm Don't bother them RJ. They have better things to do than vote on a storyline. Give everyone an extra day or so.
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 15, 2004, 04:29:28 am Well, I will give till Monday, then, maybe during the weekend they can find some time. But, it's been 3 days already....
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 18, 2004, 04:20:59 am Right you are. I understand they have things to do. They have until tomorrow, then we're just going to have to use plot 1.
Better hurry y'all Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Newts on May 18, 2004, 12:23:13 pm Number four gets my vote [I like the way that the "lack of rain" can return, purely for the notion that something that was absent can return :? ]
I'd vote for number nine too if I was allowed, purely to see how bringing about Zeon's resurrection would help people :P Still, number four it is, though I sense I may be outnumbered. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 18, 2004, 05:36:08 pm Very true, as no one else seems to be voting. :D
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on May 21, 2004, 05:58:18 pm Welp, I guess wil have to start without the rest of the votes. Plot 1 is takes the cake. Now onto characters. We only need about 4 main characters that we all agree on, then the rest of them can be put in as the current writer pleases. Just be sure not to add 4 characters in 1 chapter. Read before its you turn. Here are some main character ideas.
The boy who vows revenge is obviously the main character. We just need name, class, and, most importantly, personality. We have to make sure everyone writes about the main characters personality in the same way. I don't want him to kick ass and be ruthless, and then cry like a wuss when the next person writes. Anyway, onto main character ideas: For Class: 1.) We could use the traditional swordsman class, which would make this character easier to write about, but make him a little to ordinary. 2.) A unique class would be the main character as a Mage. This would make him differant from the main character's of other stories, but this may make his powers very limited later in the story. 3.) We could make him start as an oridnary boy with no skill whatsoever, and let him meet up with a strong fighter when he (foolishly) tries to return to his destroyed hometown unarmed. The fighter reluctantly teaches him what he knows about battling. This could make the main character "multi-taleneted" if you will. For Name: 1.) I thought the name Iris sounded good, but its a bit girly. I guess you'd have to decide on personality to find a matching name. 2.) Bantom sounds kinda cool, though for some reason, I'd imagine the main character as having a big ego if he had this name. 3.) Nallk is a strange, but creative name. Sounds good, spelt strange, and makes me think of a character with more a "quiet" determination. 4.) Nills. An average name. Just something I thought up. 5.) Praydian (pray-d-in) sounds good, too. Kinda like the name of a god. 6.) Cyo (Ki-o) is okay. Short and simple. 7.) Ecosie (my favorite) (E-co-sy) I got this name from the fact that Synbios sounds like part of 'Symbios'is. Ecosie sounds like part of 'Ecosy'stem. Sometime science DOES pay off. 8.) Lloyd is a bit preppy. Still pretty good. 9.)Beyorn (Be-orn) my dad's friends name. I always liked the way it was spelt, and the way it sounded. I'll think of more ideas later and post 'em. Someone should come up with personality ideas. EDIT - I'm sorry to say, Satan has gone on vacation. Since he'll be in Florida for about a week, it shouldn't interupt this (as no one is posting at this time). If it does, I'll move everyone up a chapter. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on May 31, 2004, 11:19:45 pm 1 for class, and 4 for name. Yup, that sounds great!
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on June 01, 2004, 04:31:23 am Guess who's back ^. It sad when the person who has been gone for more than a week posts before anyone else.
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Satan on June 04, 2004, 01:28:19 am Sure is...especially 4 days after the return!
Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Noma89 on July 02, 2004, 04:47:28 am (1 month later...)
Well, in a last ditch effort to revive this topic, I will lift it with a final post, and let it die if need be. I would be willing to write an intro myself, (though that would toss everyones votes basically out the window), but as there are only me, Satan, and (possibly) Newts making some, if any, progress, it's all I can do. Maybe y'all were right when you said the forum would slow down over time. Anywho, if I should write the intro, tell me (someone, plz!!) and if i shouldn't bother, I'll know by the awkward silence. Title: Great Minds at Work... Post by: Devlyn on July 02, 2004, 07:44:36 am Internet forae are usually more quiet during summer time. A lot of people are away and all...
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